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Allow concealed muslim women vote?
September 7th, 2007 22:29 #1 |
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francis |
this is a multiple answers poll so you can choose more than one answer depending on why you think they should or should not vote. 
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September 8th, 2007 08:36 #2 |
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robert_ak |
This is another one of these attempts to accomodate that, ultimately, fails horribly. It just doesn't make sense to allow some people, because of their religious preferences, to vote without showing their face. If you read the CBC News article, they say that Muslim women never asked for that and that they are used to removing the niqab in exceptional situations for logical and obvious reasons. ______________________ hai |
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September 8th, 2007 14:30 #3 |
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hiddendragon |
Quoting robert_ak: Screw religious accommodations and the political heritage that comes from the British colonialization (i.e. the non-belief in separating the state and religions). It's about time that Canada becomes a real secular republic in which nobody has the right to display religious symbols in public places and particularly in our political institutions just like in France. However, our problem in Canada comes from the Maritimes, Ontario and British-Columbia: many Anglo-Saxon living in these provinces, despite displaying secular-minded behaviour, don't believe in the separation between the state and religion. Secondly, Canada is not a secular country, so to speak, because in the preamble of our Constitution, you can see these words:"Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law." If you read the CBC News article, they say that Muslim women never asked for that and that they are used to removing the niqab in exceptional situations for logical and obvious reasons. Unfortunately, Robert, Election Canada is led by Marc Mayrand, one of those silly bureaucrats who think that any decision that they take correspond to what religious minorities want. Now I understand why many Muslim women decry that worthless initiative. All in all, that makes me think about what the main character in Graham Greene's novel The Quiet American says. You may be trying to do something that is good, but in the end, it will end up being bad for you. Finally, I'll leave you with this old Western proverb:"When in Rome, do as the Romans do." Last edited by hiddendragon on September 08th, 2007 14:31; edited 1 time in total. ______________________ Are you looking for something different than the mainstream media in order to have a debate? Then visit: http://anhkhoi.blogspot.com |
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September 8th, 2007 17:02 #4 |
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scm |
I say each Canadian citizen holds the right to vote, so yes on that aspect. However, they should reveal their faces because we have no idea if someone might hide their faces in order to vote more than once.
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September 8th, 2007 20:59 #5 |
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francis |
Quoting scm:You're absolutely right. It just makes no sense to allow people to hide their faces and vote... 
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September 9th, 2007 09:08 #6 |
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ga__S |
I'm not sure about the "ban all religious symbols in public". That might be a bit exaggerated. You say this from a western perspective because you've been bathed into it, but it doesn't mean that it's the right way of thinking. I agree that some religious symbols are more obvious than others and that some are, underneath their cover, not religious symbols at all. But, banning all religious symbols is unrealistic... ______________________ heh |
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September 9th, 2007 14:28 #7 |
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damaged |
Quoting ga__S:because its almost impossible to do ______________________ |
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September 10th, 2007 16:46 #8 |
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hiddendragon |
Quoting ga__S: Seriously, I've rarely heard such a bizarre response in my life displaying so much fascination for Western political philosophy. Are you saying that you don't have any idea how secularism is done in France? Quoting ga__S: That's definitely the funniest part of your response. No, really. Maybe you should stop distorting my thoughts. What I tried to say about banning all religious symbols in public places is that people should only be allowed to display religious symbols in these 3 places: at home, in a religious private school or in a religious place (ex: mosque, church, temple, etc.). ______________________ Are you looking for something different than the mainstream media in order to have a debate? Then visit: http://anhkhoi.blogspot.com |
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September 10th, 2007 21:16 #9 |
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robert_ak |
but what do you do with people who do show religious symbols in public? arrest them? fine them?
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September 11th, 2007 19:16 #10 |
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ga__S |
hiddendragon: What I mean was that Im not sure that banning all religious symbols in public places a good thing in the first place. You just assume that its the right thing to do and you merely give an example (France) of how it can be done, when the true question is: should we really ban all religious symbols in public?. Some people (myself excluded) define themselves by their religion; their religion defines them. What if you are in your house and you are wearing some sort of religious symbol. Let's say you want to go to your friend's house, which is two blocks away. Will you really remove that symbol, go outside, walk a bit, go in and put it back on? What if people are quietly reading the bible (very rare), torah (rare) or the coran (somewhat rare) in the metro. Is that a religious symbol? Should it be banned? What if someone is wearing a little cross? It's little, but it's visible. Should it be banned as well? Finally, what if someone forgets to remove that religious symbol. What's gonna happen? A fine? An arrest? Whatever it is, it sounds too extreme. Of course, you could answer yes to all these questions, but that would be too easy without considering the effects that this really has. ______________________ heh |
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