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Jackie Chan is blasting Korean cinema
October 13th, 2005 19:44 #1 |
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hiddendragon |
Quoting asianmovienews.com: Last edited by hiddendragon on Thu Oct 13, 2005 19:44; edited 2 times in total. ______________________ Are you looking for something different than the mainstream media in order to have a debate? Then visit: http://anhkhoi.blogspot.com |
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October 13th, 2005 20:26 #2 |
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scm |
Yeah, I've heard Korean movies and TV shows are popular right now in China. I can understand why people might be frustrated because of the media coverage, but the people have the rights to like whoever they want. Anyways, I always thought the field of showbiz is unfair: Some people with so many talent never gets the recognition that they deserve while some others goodlookers with no talent appear in magazines and commercials. I hope JC's comments does not ruin his reputation because I grew up enjoying his movies. ______________________ |
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October 14th, 2005 23:07 #3 |
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damaged |
who cares what he said? his work is great 
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October 15th, 2005 17:11 #4 |
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hiddendragon |
Quoting damaged: Ok. I know a lot of people who shares your opinion. However, Jackie Chan implies that Korean cinema lacks quality. Come on, look who the hell is talking? First of all, Jackie Chan is f* real shame not only for the Chinese cinema but also for the Asian industry. Besides, thanks to Hong Kong (the Cantonese industry), the Chinese cinema industry is still a little bit inconsistent (not as much as it was from the 1970s to 1990s) and one doesn't need to read regularly the newspaper very often to know that the Korean cinema has earned more international recognition (awards, prize and all those stuff) than the Chinese cinema has (most recognitions for China has been earned by Mandarin movies and it is a fact of life). So to broaden the debate, I really wonder if his latest movies New Police Story and The Myth will make their way to America and Europe, and just to mind you, I have heard about New Police Story for one year and it has not been released in America yet. Does it mean that Hong Kong producers don't want to sell the movie to the West just because it sucks hard? Well, I guess that those producers have learned a lesson from their past experiences. Last edited by hiddendragon on Sat Oct 15, 2005 17:11; edited 1 time in total. ______________________ Are you looking for something different than the mainstream media in order to have a debate? Then visit: http://anhkhoi.blogspot.com |
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October 15th, 2005 10:11 #5 |
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Sure. Jackie Chan is such a terrible actor, but he is a good fighter and stuntman. Guess what, Jackie Chan will soon do a movie with Zhang Yimou (Hero ; House of Flying Daggers), one of China's finest movie director. Seriously, I really wonder why would such a good movie director be interested to work with an actor who does not have any potential? ______________________ Nobody's home. Nobody knows. |
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October 15th, 2005 18:58 #6 |
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scm |
I agree his comments were over the top, but even though he'll never be recognized for his acting talent, he probably physically worked harder than average (if not more than any other actors out there) to reach his celebrity status. He probably already broke every bone of his and risked his life many times to entertain people and I don't think that should be underlooked. I do agree about him being a very ordinary actor, but we do need good ACTION movies without SFX. Ok, now age has caught up on him and we now get banal action movies such as Tuxedo and Medallion, but those were his recent ones, his glory days were back in the 80s and the early 90s.
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October 15th, 2005 23:07 #7 |
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damaged |
wow, i like the way that was said  You're right, Jackie Chan went through a lot to get where he is now. 
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October 16th, 2005 00:23 #8 |
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flyingdagger User |
Right, Jackie Chan is quite physical as an actor. I guess that it is because of Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee, without a doubt, that many Westerners believe that the whole Asian industry is so "inconsistent" and that it is serving "simple-minded people" (ok, I am just quoting some friends). Secondly, to me, Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee haven't set the standard for making martial arts film. Personally, I think that martial arts film is a genre that obviously doesn't have a great future if Jackie Chan (and other people) keep doing lacklustre movies the same way he has always done them. No seriously, I believe that the only way to make sure that the martial arts film has a bright future is to adapt Chinese novels to the big screen (ok, Hong Kong should do less martial arts movies that takes place in modern time). Besides, those who just can't act (like Jackie Chan and other people, duh!) should either stay at home and sit their ass down or go get some work in Hollywood. ______________________ Nobody's home. Nobody knows. |
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October 16th, 2005 19:30 #9 |
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scm |
Quoting flyingdagger: Well, maybe those who says that never heard of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon or House of flying daggers. Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee haven't set the standard for making martial arts film. What's the standard then? JC was never the best at martial-arts, but despite that, his choegraphy are one of the best. I think that martial arts film is a genre that obviously doesn't have a great future if Jackie Chan (and other people) keep doing lacklustre movies the same way he has always done them. That's your opinion, no comments. But I probably like alot movies that you consider lacklustre. I watch movies for pure entertainment. I believe that the only way to make sure that the martial arts film has a bright future is to adapt Chinese novels to the big screen Are you saying to only produce movies that involve middle age storylines with warriors making unrealistic moves? Now I'm not ridiculizing those movies, but it's not everyone that are passionate with them. Besides, those who just can't act (like Jackie Chan and other people, duh!) should either stay at home and sit their ass down or go get some work in Hollywood. At least they know how to entertain their fans. I would hate to live in a world where everything was perfect. ______________________ |
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October 17th, 2005 16:50 #10 |
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hiddendragon |
Hmm, I'm not a martial arts movie specialist, but in terms of standards, I believe that the golden rule for making a martial arts movie looks very simple and complicated, at the same time: blending real human feelings (with nuance, naturally) with great fight scenes, obviously. Secondly, it was also mentioned that it would be a great idea if many Chinese epic novels were adapted to the big screen (not exclusively, obviously). Ok, according to some people, those movies "involve Middle Aged storylines", but it doesn't necessarily imply that, in all the epic movies, the warriors "[are always performing] unrealistic moves", in fact, they can also perform moves without wires. I guess that Hong Kong producers can always think about making a movie that takes place in modern time, but I, as a oversea Asian, would sincerely like to see new stuff. Oh yeah, in terms of perfection, the Hong Kong producers should just sell movies (not always movies that are worth a bunch mentions, but also decent movies, if possible) that will at least not make them look too ludicrous in the West. Finally, to be very honest, when I'm talking about a Jackie Chan's movie, I personally say that enjoyed watching these movies without cringing, naturally: Who Am I? ; Rush Hour ; Shanghai Noon ; Shanghai Knights ; Gorgeous ; The Legend of the Drunken Master. I'm looking forward to watch Around the World in 80 Days and The Accidental Spy. Last edited by hiddendragon on Mon Oct 17, 2005 16:50; edited 2 times in total. ______________________ Are you looking for something different than the mainstream media in order to have a debate? Then visit: http://anhkhoi.blogspot.com |
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