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February 5th, 2008 17:42
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hi, This applies to anyone.
I've received today the midterm assignment to one of my classes in UNI. ITS NOT some sort of math... but I do need help gathering information.

here are the questions, and since i'M in a french university, hopefully someone will be able to help out:

- Qu'est-ce que Peter Singer reproche aux strat&Atilde;&copy;gies "Lib&Atilde;&copy;rales" de d&Atilde;&copy;fense du droit &Atilde;&nbsp; l'avortement?

- Pourquoi Peter Singer pense-t-il que l'utilitarisme aura tendance &Atilde;&nbsp; favoriser l'&Atilde;&copy;galitarisme dans la distribution des ressources &Atilde;&copy;conomiques?

-Pourquoi Peter Singer pense-t-il que le "sp&Atilde;&copy;cisme" est aussi moralement condamnable que le racisme?

Basically, I'm in this weird crazy philosophy ethics class... and we've been studying Utilitarianism. If ANYONE has any idea of anything, any website or book ideas, it would be strongly appreciated.

thanks to all!
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February 5th, 2008 17:44
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Okay, corrections:

1- Qu'est ce que Peter Singer reproche aux strategies liberales de defense du droit a l'avortement?

2- Pourquoi Peter Singer pense-t-il que l'utilitarisme aura tendance a favoriser l'egalitarisme dans la distribution des ressources economiques?

3- Pourquoi Peter Singer pense-t-il que le specisme est aussi moralement condamnable que le racisme?

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edit [robert_ak]: tried fixing the accents, but

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February 5th, 2008 22:49
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There's a lot of #$&amp; signs I see due to some bad coding; are you putting french accents? cuz I can't read them. Anyway, who's that guy you are refering about? I never heard of that name when I studied utilitarianism... just Bentham and Mill.

Sorry I don't think I can help, it seems that I haven't learn this aspect of utilitarinism.

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February 6th, 2008 21:24
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have you tried google?

what he thinks about abortion:
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please mention in ur assignment that what that guy says is pretty worthless
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February 7th, 2008 10:21
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Quoting Lawre:

Okay, corrections:

1- Qu'est ce que Peter Singer reproche aux strategies liberales de defense du droit a l'avortement?

About this one, I assume this Peter Singer is a utilitarian. Then I don't understand why would a utilitarian be opposed to abortion since the main idea of it is to cause the least universal suffering as possible. The parent and the child will be miserable then since the parent clearly doesn't want the child and the child would most likely be mistreated under these circumstances (Unless if that child gets adopted).

If the baby is aborted, then only that baby will suffer, sparing the parent. And whether the baby actually suffers due to abortion is debatable... I assume that's what a person who is utilitarian would answer.

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February 7th, 2008 11:04
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Yes, thats exactly what utilitarianism is about... But basically Peter Singer is not agains abortions, he simply thinks that the common arguments to defend it are not sufficient to really go against the conservative beliefs that
1 " it is wrong to kill an innocent human being"
2 "a foetus is an innocent human being"
3 "its wrong to kill a human foetus"

Most liberal arguments consist of denying the 2nd premisse. But.. this is v. complicated and I'm busting my ass on this stoopid assignment.. thanks for all the help!
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February 7th, 2008 22:53
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Quoting Lawre:

Yes, thats exactly what utilitarianism is about... But basically Peter Singer is not agains abortions, he simply thinks that the common arguments to defend it are not sufficient to really go against the conservative beliefs that
1 " it is wrong to kill an innocent human being"
2 "a foetus is an innocent human being"
3 "its wrong to kill a human foetus"

Most liberal arguments consist of denying the 2nd premisse. But.. this is v. complicated and I'm busting my ass on this stoopid assignment.. thanks for all the help!

1. You can't argue what is subjective, and that includes everything that is labelled right and wrong. So, it's pointless to defend or attack a statement like that.
2. From everything I learned, a human should be self-conscious or maybe even show some form of sympathy or empathy toward other humans. Then again, this statement too is not objective.
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February 18th, 2008 18:10
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1 " it is wrong to kill an innocent human being"
2 "a foetus is an innocent human being"
3 "its wrong to kill a human foetus"


(i dont like #1 because, innocent or not, it is wrong to kill a human being)

but about #2, a foetus might not be right now a full-potential human being, but u no dam well it will be later so i dont see what there is to refute against killing foetuses

but this subject is way too broad to be approached as it is and the answer to whether abortion is "right or wrong" is not just a matter of a simple "yes or no". it would also depend on the situation
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February 18th, 2008 18:43
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doesn't the internets have like whole slews of arguments on this subject already?
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February 18th, 2008 19:45
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yes, it is, but its really annoying and long to find all the stuff. + the questions are slightly specific, so its hard to really find the right answers. If it was just "debate abortion using utilitarianism", it would be very very simple.
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